Conspiracy THIS

Someone started a thread asking for people to try to debunk the doccumentary 9/11 In Plane Sight. It was a noble attempt at trying to see what is true and what is fabricated - and I certainly respect that. But later on the posts turned into "conspiracy theory" this & that. I got sick of it, so here is my elaborate response:

Too many people are confusing a "conspiracy" with a "conspiracy theory". Every time someone hears something they don't want to believe, or have a hard time believing - it's automatically a "conspiracy theory". There's a strong difference between "theory" and evidence. Of course, even after presenting evidence - it's still called a "theory". Nice try at discrediting something but it's just gonna kick you in the end. Look at history people. Look at what Nero did. He torched Rome, and blamed it on the Christians. All his people followed behind him.
Now let's look at Hitler. He torched the Reichstag building, and blamed it on the communists. Before Germany lost the war, Hitler's own people followed along with everything he did. It would of been absurd to think that Hitler would do such a thing. Let's not forget that Hitler planned the war with Poland, all as an excuse to gain patriotic support and be able to increase his military and begin his globalistic vision.

related:

• The Rise Of The Fourth Reich
  
• The Rise of Hitler

Why don't we fast forward now to the US. We gave small pox blankets to the Idians. Still not good enough for ya? What about Pearl Harbor? According to the History Channel - FDR knew atleast 12 days before hand, the exact day the Japanese would be launching their attack.

related:

• Pearl Harbor: It might have been avoided


• The McCollum Memo: The Smoking Gun of Pearl Harbor
• PEARL HARBOR: MOTHER OF ALL CONSPIRACIES
  
• Time for government to reveal truth about Pearl Harbor
  
• the list goes on...

Ever hear about Operation Northwoods? Cuba ring a bell? 1960?

• U.S. Military Drafted Plans to Terrorize U.S. Cities to Provoke War With Cuba
  
• New book on NSA sheds light on secrets; U.S. terror plan called Cuba invasion pretext


• OPERATION NORTHWOODS: OFFICIAL DECLASSIFIED JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF DOCUMENTS

Now, you all remember Viet Nam, right? Vietnamese attacked innocent ships and we were just defending ourselves - of course

• Tonkin incident might not have occurred
  
• 30-year Anniversary: Tonkin Gulf Lie Launched Vietnam War
  

I shouldn't have to remind anyone about Kennedy - because we all know that 1 bullet can hit 8 different parts of the body. Just another conspiracy theory, right? Just another bunch of lies?

I respect that some of you try to see how well such doccumentaries hold up to scrutiny and if there is proof behind it - but it's turning into a white-wash, and it's pathetic. Why not look at things instead as freedom versus tyranny? Life versus death? But of course, it doesn't end there. Why don't we take a look at the Encyclopedia (Wikipedia). I looked up "conspiracy theory" and what-do-you-know, lookie what I found:

Real life imitates conspiracy theory

• 
  From the 1950s to the 1970s, the CIA and the U.S. Army operated a research program into mind control, codenamed MKULTRA. In this program, CIA agents gave LSD and other drugs to unwitting and unconsenting victims, in an effort to devise a working "truth serum" and/or
  mind-control drug. MKULTRA was uncovered by Presidential and Congressional research committees in 1975, and discontinued at that time. Many prominent writers and drug figures were first exposed to LSD under this program, including Ken Kesey of the Merry Pranksters, Timothy Leary, Allen Ginsberg, Baba Ram Dass (Richard Alpert) and future 'Unabomber' Theodore Kaczynski. A source on this is the book "Acid Dreams" by Bruce Shalin and Martin A. Lee.
  
• 
  ECHELON is a communications interception network operated by the United States, the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. It is designed to capture telephone calls, fax and e-mail messages. New Zealand has openly admitted the existence of Echelon, and the European Union commissioned a report on the system.
  
• 
  In the 2003 Iraq War, Iraqi resistance was strong at first and then collapsed suddenly. A conspiracy theory emerged in Iraq and elsewhere that there had been a safqah—Arabic for "secret deal"—between the US and the Iraqi military elite, wherein the elite were bribed to stand down. This conspiracy
  theory was ignored or ridiculed in the US media. In late May, 2003, General Tommy Franks, who had been the head of the US forces in the conflict, confirmed in an interview with Defense News that the US government had paid off high-level Iraqi military officials and that they had stated that "I am working for you now". How important this was to the course of the conflict was not
  entirely clear at the time of this writing (May 24, 2003).
  
• 
  The Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male.
  For a period of 50 years, the US Government used some members of the black population of a town in Alabama to observe the effects of untreated syphilis. The participants were not asked to
  participate and were not told they were being untreated for their syphilis.

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The reason why I am throwing all of this upfront is to try to prove a few points:

1. What happened on 9/11 (accouding to "conspiracy theory") has happened throughout history
   
2. Many so called "Conspiracy Theories" are actually "Conspiracy Reality"
   
3. This isn't the first time that the U.S. Government has taken a knife to its citizens to accomplish what it wanted
   
4. Based on these events alone, it's quite possible that a conspiracy exists within the official story of 9/11

I am not going to even try to debate about the entire official story of 9/11 in this thread. I am slowly compiling evidence from other sources that I am compiling together and searching out the original articles (most are cached) from and doing my best to ask what information is rellevant, and what would a skeptic say about each (and therefore, is it worth posting). The only issue I wish to debate here is one that I saw come up earlier in the thread: that being the collapse of WTC buildings 1, 2, & 7.

Official Story
Buildings 1 & 2 were taken down by the collapsing of the support beams due to the severe temperature of fire (which was increased by the presence of much jet fuel). Building #7 collapsed as well due to fire even though no plane hit it.

What I say
The WTC buildings were brought down by placed explosives by Larry Silverstein - the owner of the WTC complex, and the Fire Chief of NYC. It was brought down for two reasons:

1. So that Larry Silverstein can cash in on the (supposed) absurdly high insurance he invested in the buildings (he got back 3 1/2 billion dollars)


2. So that there would be a larger open wound for the people to see

My proof:

Bombs in the Buildings

NBC: FDNY Chief of Safety Reported Bombs Both Within the Towers and on the Planes on 9/11

What you will hear is a clip from NBC reporter Pat Dawson on the morning of 9/11. In it he discusses the comments of Albert Turi, the Chief of Safety for the New York City Fire Department.
-NBC

When The Explosives Were Placed: WTC South Tower Upper Floors Closed on 9/8 & 9/9

NYC firefighters remarked that day that it seemed like bombs were going off in the buildings, just prior to the tower's collapse. One glaring question remains unanswered: exactly how and when could such a monumental undertaking be accomplished. Read on for the answer...
-San Francisco Indymedia

9/11 Firefighter Observes: "The Building Collapsed to Dust"

"You have two hundred and ten story office buildings. You don't find a desk. You don't find a chair. You don't find a telephone, a computer. The biggest piece of a telephone I found was half of the keypad. The building collapsed to dust."

CBS News Channel Eyewitness Describes 'Secondary Explosions' in WTC

The following clips originate from CBS Channel 2 in New York. The reporter is in a helicopter as the WTC Towers collapse.
Clip 1 Clip 2
-CBS News

New York Firefighters Discuss Bombs in WTC Towers

In this clip you will hear a discussion between New York Firefighters from September 11 where they describe the WTC and the fact that it looked like detonators were planted in the towers.

WTC 7 Imploded by Silverstein, FDNY and Others

It has now been admitted with little or no press coverage that WTC7 was brought down by explosives inside the building. This is simply the biggest 9/11 revelation since the event and proves there is a press blackout in operation.

Flashback: Bush Blocked Bill For WTC Rescue Workers and Firemen: People Becoming Ill and Dying as a Result of the Deliberate Demolition of Building 7At his Waco, Texas pep rally on the economy, President Bush announced that he intended to enforce "spending restraint" by blocking a US$5.1 billion emergency spending Bill passed by Congress. The Bill included US$90 million for long-term health monitoring of World Trade Centre (WTC) rescue workers and volunteers who were exposed to a catastrophe with potential long-term health and environmental consequences.

-London Guardian (cached)

In a September 2002 PBS documentary called 'America Rebuilds,' Silverstein states, in reference to World Trade Center Building 7, "I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, "We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it. And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."

-PBS Doccumentary "America Rebuilds"

Steel Not Seen As Factor in WTC Collapse: Early tests on steel beams from the World Trade Center show they generally met or were stronger than design requirements, ruling them out as a contributing cause of the collapse of the towers, federal investigators said Wednesday.
-News Channel 8

Where's the inferno? The reason given for the collapse of the twin towers is floor trusses at the aircraft impact level failed due to an inferno generated by aircraft fuel which turned the impacted floors into an 800ºC furnace capable of casting aluminum and glazing pottery.
-Inependant Study, Author unknown

WTC 7: First large building ever to collapse from fire alone (no debris impact)
-Under Reported.com

The Firefighters' Tapes - Tapes reveal that fires were under control not raging infernos: A lot of the portions of the tapes have been classified. This portion lasts an hour and thirteen minutes, we have highlighted the interesting parts below with full transcripts.
-Direct source with commentary

Rescue Fireman Louie Cacchioli - "We think there was bombs set in the building": I was taking firefighters up in the elevator to the 24th floor to get in position to evacuate workers. On the last trip up a bomb went off. We think there was bombs set in the building.
-People.com (cached)

Experts says explosives brought down the towers - then strangely changes his mind days later: Televised images of the attacks on the World Trade Center suggest that explosives devices caused the collapse of both towers, a New Mexico Tech explosion expert said Tuesday.
-ABQ Journal (Cached to show differences)

More Photographs Unearthed to Suggest Bombs in the Twin Towers
-Images from Fox News

An Eye-Witness Account of the World Trade Center Attacks
-The Planetary Society

Unasked Questions about bombs in the World Trade Center on September 11 2001: One (or more) eyewitness reported hearing a series of at least about "five" explosions in at least one of the buildings just before it came down.
-Independant Compilation

Eyewitness Reports Persist Of Bombs At WTC Collapse: Despite reports from numerous eyewitnesses and experts, including news reporters on the scene, who heard or saw explosions immediately before the collapse of the World Trade Center, there has been virtual silence in the mainstream media.
-Rense.com

Eyewitnesses tell of horror - "I heard the bomb"
-BBC

Full horror of WTC attack on FBI tape - "Then comes a longer and much louder explosion."
-Fairfax Digital (cached)

New York Firefighters’ Final Words Fuel Burning Questions About 9-11: Evidence that could debunk the official explanation for the collapse of the World Trade Center is being kept secret by the Department of Justice on a flimsy pretext.
-American Free Press

WTC 7 Professional Demolition Footage (be patient while this GIF image downloads)
-What Really Happened.com

ENGINEERS ARE BAFFLED OVER THE COLLAPSE OF 7 WTC: Almost lost in the chaos of the collapse of the World Trade Center is a mystery that under normal circumstances would probably have captured the attention of the city and the world. That mystery is the collapse of a nearby 47-story, two-million-square-foot building seven hours after flaming debris from the towers rained down on it, igniting what became an out-of-control fire.
-NY Times (cached - original requires membership)

Unexplained 9-11 Explosion at WTC Complex: Despite the fact that the horrible events of Sept. 11 occurred in broad daylight and were widely photographed, significant aspects of the attacks have been completely suppressed by a media blackout.
-American Free Press (cached)

“I don't know about you, but I'm concerned about what's happening in this world. I'm concerned with the structure. I'm concerned with the systems of control. Those that control my life and those that seek to control it even more. I want freedom. That's what I want. And that's what you should want.”
-Alex Jones, from the movie Walking Life